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Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« on: March 28, 2013, 12:21:34 AM »
What should happen if 2 or more creatures are force waved into a Hellfire or Teleport trap?  Do all creatures get affected?  Does only one creature get affected? If so, who chooses which one?

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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 12:25:28 AM »
:ohmy:  Oh my. Force wave does say, push all creatures in target zone, one zone, correct?
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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 12:46:32 AM »
I would guess all of them until somebody corrects me.

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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 01:10:07 AM »
I think it would fall into the simultaneous effect thing.. creatures are all moved together, so they all trigger the trap at the same time creating a simultaneous effect.  So youd choose which one it effects?  Im just kinda guessing.

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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 07:42:05 AM »
I was of the impression that even though it happens at once, you do once at a time for mechanical reasons...
Guess we need an official word.

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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 08:32:37 AM »
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I think it would fall into the simultaneous effect thing.. creatures are all moved together, so they all trigger the trap at the same time creating a simultaneous effect.  So youd choose which one it effects?  Im just kinda guessing.


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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 08:36:22 AM »
Well hellfire trap is specifically worded for one creature...While force wave says "All creatures" I would rule you move creatures one at a time for this type of situation, but force wave makes it seem as if all creatures would be have to be moved all at once. (I do have a problem where I take text and rules to the literal extreme, even if it makes less sense, I dont know if anyone outside of MtG will understand my pain.)

I would say the best solution would be to treat it like a zone attack were you do it one at a time like how sausageman suggested.
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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 08:55:27 AM »
All things move at same time the owner of the trap chooses what creature was the one that set it off.
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Re: Force Wave into Hellfire/Teleport Trap
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 09:11:49 AM »
Well I see that now! You submitter finger was a bit quicker than mine. :)
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