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Mage Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: Laddinfance on September 20, 2015, 04:37:51 PM
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Well we've had some fantastic concepts and now we need to find the one we want to actually build. This poll will end on Tuesday so please get your votes in soon!
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Could you make it possible to vote multiple times?
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I'd made it a single vote because I wanted to know what you Most wanted to see made.
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Better to have a card some people love than a card everyone agrees is okay.
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It might be helpful to define or elaborate on what constitutes a "Nightmare Creature". That choice seems to have a lot of potential overlap between "Psychic Ghost" and "Creature from Beyond".
Anyway, I'm voting for Cthonian-Style Creature from Beyond, mainly because I feel it is the most logical direction for Mind & Dark cards to go in. We already have ghosts which are pure Dark, so having ghosts also be the Mind & Dark combo will make it feel less distinct and special. I view Brain in a Jar as more natural as a Mind & Arcane combo than Mind & Dark (there's nothing necessarily evil about surviving as a brain in a vat... Heck, some of my best friends might be brains in vats for all I know!). I would be really excited for Zombie Fungus (I really want fungus/mushroom people), but that seems like an ideal Nature & Dark combo. Mental Parasite could be good, but I think it's pretty similar to how the Zombie Fungus could work. And Nightmare Creature is a bit vague at the moment.
Just my 2 cents.
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Is this even a contest?
Brain in a jar, obviously.
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And Nightmare Creature is a bit vague at the moment.
we spoke about nightmare creature in another topic.
it would be a creature bringing nightmare, something to do with the sleep condition, the fear, etc.
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Wow, that over fast! Didn't have time to vote... Are we in a rush?
Now when I look at the options I must say that it is hard to grasp the theme / characteristics of each option. Maybe it is clear for you Americans but most of the names/options I have never heard of. What I would have like to see (and still would) were like a reference art / picture for each one. A simple Google link to something to get a better understanding.
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Sorry that seemed to go by so fast. I had it up for 48 hours. I'm trying to split the card into little pieces so we can do chunks at a time and not go to fast, but also not stagnate. Right now the themes are pretty nebulous. We'll be honing them down as we go along. Hope that helps.
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I missed the vote as well, but I don't mind because Nightmare creature, even if it's more broad, sounds great! I like the polls though, so I'll just pay more attention.
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Same here. I really like the poll method to bring the community creature alive.
This is the nightmare I like to see: https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A (https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A)
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Same here. I really like the poll method to bring the community creature alive.
This is the nightmare I like to see: https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A (https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A)
I hope you mean the thing in the background rather than the gunslinger.
I like it. some black-colored creature with eyes and mouths everywhere.
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Shit! Didn't notice the gun before. Well yes and no, I meant the dude in the foreground but without the lousy gun.
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I really like that imagery too, fas723. He's also holding a sword, so if we just get rid of the gun we could have a duelist cloaked in shadows. I was personally picturing something akin to a wraith for the nightmare option, but something more solid like you suggest would be really cool. Sort of like your fears made flesh. Or perhaps it could be a Mind Mage who delved too deep into the psyche and unlocked something dark and sinister, the stuff of Nightmares, and was tainted by it's power.
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:) :) :)
we voted but we didn't know on what!
for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).
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:) :) :)
we voted but we didn't know on what!
for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).
A creature in Mage Wars must have health. Seems weird if it is a smell or a dream...
I totally agree that we voted on something we all had different perspective on at the time. However, doesn't it make it more fun further down this exercise? :)
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Yeah I was thinking something similar (but different) to the invisible stalker, cause I loved that concept and would like to see it more viable.
:) :) :)
we voted but we didn't know on what!
for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).
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:) :) :)
we voted but we didn't know on what!
for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).
A creature in Mage Wars must have health. Seems weird if it is a smell or a dream...
an etheral creature can have health being "nothing"!
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I'm leaving for a convention today, but I'll try to get the next phase of card creation out there for everyone tonight!
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:) :) :)
we voted but we didn't know on what!
for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).
A creature in Mage Wars must have health. Seems weird if it is a smell or a dream...
an etheral creature can have health being "nothing"!
But aren't all ethereal and incorporeal creature in Mage Wars physical in some sense. Even the Grey Wrath.
A smell is just a little bit more abstract. But a very fun idea.
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I would imagine a smell independent of anything creating (or giving off) it, would be an incantation spell. Unless you give some sort of autonomy to a smell, I don't think it would be a creature. When you give it autonomy I think it would have to be sensed in some sort of way (in this way smell) and thus can be destroyed.
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Incorporeal is a hard thing to pin down. By definition, it is something without matter or physical existence. According to real world physics, that means it would have to be made up of one of the fundamental forces of nature such as magnetism or gravity. Of course in a fantasy setting, you could also use the fundamental force of magic to explain it, or a spiritual force. Why physical attacks are able to damage them at all is a little difficult to grasp, but my best explanation is that it is the kinetic energy of the blow rather than any physical contact that it is doing the damage. It could also have to do with the gravity and other forces being exuded by the object you attack with. Regardless, it is not very powerful against them. You need an attack that also transcends the physical, i.e. ethereal, in order to damage them.
So, basically the answer is "Magic," which does indeed allow for a sentient smell personified if that is what people want. That's not really something I'm on board for though.
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Same here. I really like the poll method to bring the community creature alive.
This is the nightmare I like to see: https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A (https://www.google.se/search?q=nightmare&client=ms-android-google&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIu9qJ8tWNyAIVSZMsCh0RVgj7&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=nightmare+fantasy+art&imgrc=WWWsj-Q1R_VXKM%3A)
I hope you mean the thing in the background rather than the gunslinger.
I like it. some black-colored creature with eyes and mouths everywhere.
The gunslinger and the mouths are one and the same. It's Alucard from Hellsing.
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Been traveling and assembling the booth. Right now I'm typing on my phone. I'll get the new post up soon.
Aaron
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So what is a nightmare creature?
1)It could be a creature made out of shadows which have been made tangible. humanoid, quadraped, could-shaped, whatever.
2)It could be a creature made nightmarish. A corrupted animal. like a wolf with eyes and mouths everywhere.
3) The embodiment of peoples nightmares
4) a human who uses nightmares as a weapon or is made of nightmares?
5)the nightmare horse
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So what is a nightmare creature?
1)It could be a creature made out of shadows which have been made tangible. humanoid, quadraped, could-shaped, whatever.
2)It could be a creature made nightmarish. A corrupted animal. like a wolf with eyes and mouths everywhere.
3) The embodiment of peoples nightmares
4) a human who uses nightmares as a weapon or is made of nightmares?
5)the nightmare horse
I love this list, and propose narrowing down this field of possibilities be our next task. I still like that picture that was posted earlier, and thus would support options 2 and/or 4. A humanoid duelist corrupted by or made from nightmares.
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4) a human who uses nightmares as a weapon or is made of nightmares?
This reminds me of Christopher Carrion from Clive Barker's Abarat. He wears a collar filled with a fluid and has two tubes sprouting from his head that extract his nightmares wich swim in the fluid. Christopher breathes his own nightmares. Always.
(http://www.clivebarker.info/yacarrion1.jpg)
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Well, I don't really have a clue about Mage Wars Lore, but is there maybe something akin to a Dream Plane or Dimension of Nightmares?
E.g. Dal Quor (http://geoffshousegames.wikidot.com/pathfinder-quori) is the Plane of Dreams in D&D's Eberron Setting, inhabited by Quori, who have power over dreams.
Another good fit would be something like Forgotten Realms' Feyr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feyr), which are 'formed when residual magical energies combine with ordinary nightmares'.