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Title: Demons - Living?
Post by: sIKE on March 08, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Are Demons Living ort Non-Living Creatures? I'm sure they are living, but wanted to check.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: Tacullu64 on March 08, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
They are living creatures.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: baronzaltor on March 08, 2013, 02:43:56 PM
They are living.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: sIKE on March 08, 2013, 04:23:19 PM
Was dismayed to find that Light damage does nothing extra against creatures of the Dark :)
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: Tacullu64 on March 08, 2013, 04:33:23 PM
I know it's small consolation but, Samandrial gets +1 vs dark creatures.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: DarthDadaD20 on March 09, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Quote from: "sIKE" post=8865
Was dismayed to find that Light damage does nothing extra against creatures of the Dark :)

You underestimate the power of the Dark Side. :evil:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: Arcanus on March 09, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
Interesting idea.  In early playtesting we had considered making Light better against Dark.  Many of the playtesters were against having that because it gave the Priestess a huge advantage over the Warlock.  Of course, we could have made some counterbalances.

Instead we chose to make Light more powerful against Nonliving, which gives Light a little more flexibility and less narrow of focus.  Light can now be effectively used against all Incorporeal from all schools (Incorporeal are always Nonliving), all Golems (like the Iron Golem), and will still be deadly against Nonliving Dark creatures like the coming Necromancers Undead forces.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: reddawn on March 09, 2013, 11:29:24 AM
Well, Samandriel still swings for +1 against dark creatures, so the theme is kinda already there.  But even then, that just brings her up to Adramalech in terms of quick action attack dice.  Better believe I save a Knockdown/Agony for that...jerk.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: piousflea on March 10, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
Having Light do extra damage vs Nonliving makes sense from a balance perspective because anyone with a heavy Nonliving focus will (almost always) have a Deathlock to prevent healing... If it wasn't for +vs Nonliving, the priestess would be really at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: sIKE on March 10, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
When playing a Priestess I really hate Deathlock. I either have to tank the Warlock quckly or spend time, mana and actions to take it out. He then proceds to put a Poisoned Blood on me which I am learning to have a Nullify ready for, but once again I am using actions to counter instead of using the action in my favor.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: DarthDadaD20 on March 10, 2013, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: "Arcanus" post=8881
Interesting idea.  In early playtesting we had considered making Light better against Dark.  Many of the playtesters were against having that because it gave the Priestess a huge advantage over the Warlock.  Of course, we could have made some counterbalances.

Instead we chose to make Light more powerful against Nonliving, which gives Light a little more flexibility and less narrow of focus.  Light can now be effectively used against all Incorporeal from all schools (Incorporeal are always Nonliving), all Golems (like the Iron Golem), and will still be deadly against Nonliving Dark creatures like the coming Necromancers Undead forces.

I would have to agree, a school should never be better then another. I like how its better against type, light having an advantage over unliving,fire having an advantage over plants,Ect. is much better than anything else.
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: sIKE on March 10, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: "Arcanus" post=8881


Instead we chose to make Light more powerful against Nonliving, which gives Light a little more flexibility and less narrow of focus.  Light can now be effectively used against all Incorporeal from all schools (Incorporeal are always Nonliving), all Golems (like the Iron Golem), and will still be deadly against Nonliving Dark creatures like the coming Necromancers Undead forces.


Which is fine other than the fact that the limitation is to "Nonliving Creatures" and Walls are not Creatures:(
Title: Re: Demons - Living?
Post by: DarthDadaD20 on March 10, 2013, 10:36:18 PM
Just wait for the new expansion, then it will be lights time to shine. (Not intended to be the WORST pun ever.)