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Mage Wars => Rules Discussion => Topic started by: Zuberi on November 23, 2013, 04:51:14 AM
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Today Deckbuilder suggested that someone collect all of the rulings on the Forums that are not completely covered or clear in the Rulebook and FAQ into a single thread. I thought this was a great idea, and so I have sought out to do just that. I ask that people do not post their questions within this thread. If you do have a question that you can not find the answer to, please create your own topic to ask that question.
If you think a topic should be added to this thread, however, then feel free to let me know either by replying to this thread or sending me a private message. I will try to keep this thing updated, both removing old questions that get answered by official updates and adding new topics that come up.
Defense Rolls
Some enchantments and equipment grant a Defense to a creature. If the card is transfered to another creature, the Defense Marker (or Ready Marker) is left on whichever side it happens to be on.
For Example: You have enchanted your Steelclaw Grizzly with Cobra Reflexes and put it on guard. When your opponent attacks your creature, you decide to use Cobra Reflexes and succeed in avoiding the attack. You then use Shift Enchantment to transfer Cobra Reflexes to your mage. Your mage does successfully receive Cobra Reflexes, however since the Defense was already used this round, it does not provide the mage with any protection until next round.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=281.0
Enchanter's Wardstone
Enchanter's Wardstone does not benefit enchantments until after they have successfully been cast. Thus it does not increase the cost needed to Nullify an Enchantment.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13987.msg35404#msg35404
Mage Abilities
Certain mage abilities are limited to creatures you control in addition to being restricted to friendly creatures. This mostly affects team games to prevent two mages from stacking similar abilities. We do not have a complete list of which abilities are restricted as such, but we know for certain that the Beastmaster's Pet is. From that we can infer that similar abilities share this restriction, including the Priest's Holy Avenger, Warlock's Blood Reaper, Necromancer's Eternal Servant, and Druid's Treebond.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13242.msg25722#msg25722
Magebane
I am a little confused as to whether Magebane causes damage when dispelled or not.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13976.msg34282#msg34282
Mage Training
Mage's are required to reveal their training at the beginning of the game. This mostly affects Wizard's currently, who have to announce their choice of elemental training.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13341.msg27117#msg27117
Reverse Attack
The rules are quite clear that [mwcard=MW1E34]Reverse Attack[/mwcard] only changes the target of the attack for steps 3 and 4 of the attack sequence. This means that you are not the target of your own attack during step 2 and thus can not use any defenses to avoid the attack being redirected back towards you. However, there was a post made by Pixelgeek which contradicts this, saying that you would be required to reveal mandatory defenses like Block or another Reverse Attack. This has caused some confusion and we would like confirmation as to whether Pixelgeek is correct or should we follow the rules as written?
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=6837.msg6857#msg6857
Seedling Pod
Seedling Pods are destroyed during the Cast Spell step as part of the cost of casting the spell they've prepared.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13342.msg35405#msg35405
Stranglevine
The life gain on Stranglevine is not cumulative and does not compound. When calculating how much life Stranglevine currently has, always start at 6 before adding 2X.
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13624.msg29865#msg29865
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I know this is not complete or very neat, but it is 6AM here and I have yet to go to bed. Thus I shall come back to it upon waking. Please leave me any suggestions you can think of. I'd love to hear how I could improve upon the look/format and I would GREATLY appreciate help in combing these forums for relevant information.
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I like it.
Who are you?
Where did you come from all of a sudden like that?
;)
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This is fantastic sir. I can help with a couple points.
Devouring Jelly - No it's corrode effect does not cause it to reconstruct. This is because it is a condition doing damage not the attack. This is no different than a creature who can apply tainted on it's attacks. A Devouring Jelly will only reconstruct if it's attack itself deals damage.
Hydro Immunity - I believe this is addressed. It's been a hectic week here at Arcane Wonders and the FAQ wasn't able to get out. If I had remembered that Bryan had BGG this week then I would have revised my timetable. Sorry guys.
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I'm not sure if it's still being maintained, but it would be nice to link in with the unofficial FAQ thread... Maybe...
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=281.0
I'm not sure if it quite works, but as I commented in another thread, having a codex style list with some cross references would seem useful. A question type approach is quite hard to sort and difficult to quickly review when it gets long. This is obviously easier for some questions i.e the mind control one, than others i.e same enchantment.
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Moonglow suggested a "Codex Style" format for this thread rather than a Q&A format, as it would be easier to browse and find what you're looking for. I would like to agree, so I have made an attempt at such. It is even in alphabetical order. I'm sure it could be improved upon though, so if you have suggestions for how to do so, let me know.
I also added several topics from the thread that Moonglow pointed out, however most of the info on that thread, I felt, was already answered in the FAQ and the updated Rulebook.
Who are you?
Where did you come from all of a sudden like that?
I am a simple hillbilly born in the hills of West Virginia and currently living in North Carolina. I got Mage Wars back in December of 2012 as a holiday gift to myself. It took me a couple of months to get it to the table, and my first few play throughs sparked a couple of questions which these forums promptly answered. Over the course of the year, I have stalked these forums in the hopes of improving my own mastery of the game but I didn't really contribute much back to it. In October though, I decided to pass on a little bit of the info I had picked up by answering a few questions myself, and I earned myself a Banana Sticker. It was a delicious prize, and I decided to seek out more by becoming much more involved with the game I love.
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Who are you?
Where did you come from all of a sudden like that?
I am a simple hillbilly born in the hills of West Virginia and currently living in North Carolina. I got Mage Wars back in December of 2012 as a holiday gift to myself. It took me a couple of months to get it to the table, and my first few play throughs sparked a couple of questions which these forums promptly answered. Over the course of the year, I have stalked these forums in the hopes of improving my own mastery of the game but I didn't really contribute much back to it. In October though, I decided to pass on a little bit of the info I had picked up by answering a few questions myself, and I earned myself a Banana Sticker. It was a delicious prize, and I decided to seek out more by becoming much more involved with the game I love.
Uh huh. I didn't realise they were edible. Sounds good.
Thanks for your recent plethora of posts. Good stuff in them.
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Great job man! This post deserves a sticker ;)
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I deleted the topics that were answered in the recent FAQ update. Pretty sure I caught all of them, but let me know if I missed something.
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Added the topic of whether flyers can ignore guards when attacking conjurations: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=12738.msg18450#msg18450
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Added an interesting question that I found this morning on Seedling Pods written by Aquestrion: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13306.msg26496#msg26496
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@Zuberi (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3693)
Thanks again
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Recognition from the all powerful Shad0w! ^_^ hurray for warm fuzzies.
Also, I added a current topic of debate regarding Attack Spells: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13320.msg26510#msg26510
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Recognition from the all powerful Shad0w! ^_^ hurray for warm fuzzies.
Also, I added a current topic of debate regarding Attack Spells: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13320.msg26510#msg26510
Ahhh, but did he give you a banana sticker earlier? ;D
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lol, I don't know. I haven't abandoned my quest for stickers, but I've kind of lost track of where they come from.
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Added the debate about Wizard's having to reveal their training.
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Updated with the ruling on revealing a mage's (wizard's) training.
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Thanks for this :) Reading the FAQ after over half a year of not keeping up with their official documents was really awesome for me - all the rules arguments I remember were clearly answered, from hydro immune fire extinguishers to guards and conjurations. Thanks Zuberi, and thanks AW!
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I've neglected this for awhile. Arcane wonders has done a great job updating the FAQ and I should probably remove some of the entries here, but I did decide to update after a discussion regarding stranglevine.
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Nice work. I hope we can get a living document up somewhere that can track everything. Maybe have a section with hyperlinks to the items that can bring you to a thread that has the information as well as any responses from the dev group.
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Recognition from the all powerful Shad0w! ^_^ hurray for warm fuzzies.
Also, I added a current topic of debate regarding Attack Spells: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13320.msg26510#msg26510 (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13320.msg26510#msg26510)
Ahhh, but did he give you a banana sticker earlier? ;D
I had to cut him off he was hoarding
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Edit: computer error. Move along.
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Has everything in this list been picked up by the official FAQ, super codex or MWC 3.3?
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MWC 3.3?
What is this?
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MWC 3.3?
What is this?
The comprehensive codex defines the mage wars core rulebook as MWC. The version on the main website is 3.3.
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A lot of the stuff in this list has been covered officially at this time. I have been meaning to review the list to see if anything is still in question, but haven't gotten around to it. Perhaps sometime this weekend.
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The rulings you guys have posted for Reverse attack should be added here.
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I've been failing horribly at this, but I am completely free tomorrow and promise I will update.
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That's got to be banana sticker material! ;)
I've been failing horribly at this, but I am completely free tomorrow and promise I will update.
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That's got to be banana sticker material! ;)
I've been failing horribly at this, but I am completely free tomorrow and promise I will update.
Zuberi got 2 for making it & promising to keep it up to date
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Well, I have updated this thread as promised. As I suspected the recent updates to the FAQ and Rulebook had answered most of the topics here, although I was surprised at the ones that remained. I went ahead and deleted the topics regarding the timing on revealing Charm and Mind Control even though they were not directly addressed in the official documents. It was always clear to me that the ready stage existed in between Action Phases and I think we're all on the same page now without needing it spelled out more clearly in the official documents. If people want me to add them back to this thread, however, I shall do so.
I am surprised that Stranglevine didn't get clarified in the FAQ as I can certainly see people still being confused by the wording on the card regarding the Life Gain. I am also intrigued by the question regarding timing on Seedling Pod which has yet to be addressed at all as far as I can tell.
Speaking of timing issues, while going through everything I discovered what seems like a slight discrepancy regarding Magebane. In a recent thread it was stated that the FAQ says Magebane triggers AFTER the resolve spell step, which is true, and that this means Magebane will not cause damage if it is dispelled. However, the FAQ also states specifically that Magebane WILL cause damage when dispelled. This is rather confusing.
I'm not sure what Reverse Attack Ruling barriecritzer is referring to.
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I had talked about this awhile ago with Laddin. With finishing FiF I forgot to go back to it.
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@ Zuberi the ruling about what happens when 2 players have reverse attack on at the same time
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Thank you barriecritzer. I added the controversy regarding Reverse Attack along with a link back to the original ruling made by Pixelgeek rather than a link to your thread. I felt it would be the more pertinent one. I still think that this is just a situation where Pixelgeek simply made a mistake, as the rules seem quite clear otherwise.
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Added in a recent question regarding Enchanter's Wardstone and Nullify.
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Two of our dangling questions were answered this morning. Many thanks to
the almighty god of Laddinfance! We now have a much better understanding of how Seedling Pods work as well as Enchanter's Wardstone (and the counter mechanic).
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Two of our dangling questions were answered this morning. Many thanks to the almighty god of Laddinfance! We now have a much better understanding of how Seedling Pods work as well as Enchanter's Wardstone (and the counter mechanic).
Not really a god. Don't feel like having Asyra strike me down on a Monday Morning. Just a (sometimes) humble Mage here.
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You have the power to smite any heretics that appear within these virtual lands and wave away the clouds of confusion and doubt. That's pretty awesome. If you do not wish to have a godly title though, then it shall be stricken from the records.