Playing as the Warlord, I quickly filled the board with low cost creatures. I ran out of action markers and wonder if they represent any kind of component limit in the game, or can you use pennies or any other substitute for action markers?

I started a thread over at BGG and thought I'd go straight to the source. I searched the forum and couldn't find the question. Apologies if it has been answered and I missed it. http://boardgamegeek.com/article/10257602#10257602

When is an enchantment considered to be targeting? Is it when the matrix is completed?

Does Reverse Magic take effect when the target is first targeted and the blind enchantment goes down, or when the enchantment is revealed and the matrix becomes complete. If it's before, does the reverse spell caster pay for both reveals?

It seems to me this spell should trigger after the reveal once the matrix is complete. But the wording says "targeted" and I can see that being interpreted either way.

See page 23 of the rule book: "At this point, it is not fully formed and exists only as a magical potential, with no effect on the battle. When the spell is revealed later, the caster "completes" the spell by adding additional power. It is only then that the enchantment takes form and can affect the target."

I've got to admit, I'm impressed this is one of the few parts of the otherwise super-clear rule set where some question has been raised in my mind.

Several people in the BGG thread think it's got to be during the initial cast period that Reverse Magic pops. The biggest support for that claim is on the card itself. You must reveal Reverse Magic during the Counter Spell Step.

The only problem I see with that is how enchantments work and the costs involved. If we go with the idea Reverse Magic must take effect immediately upon being targeted with an enchantment then this becomes the chain:

1)I pay 2 mana to target my mage with Reverse Magic and it's placed face down.

2)An enemy mage targets my mage with an enchantment and pays 2 mana.

3)My Reverse Magic trigger goes off and I must flip it and pay 5 mana.

(Here's where things get wonky)

4)I gain control of the enchantment and look at it to find out what the heck it is.

5)I now target the mage who cast the enchantment with something he already knows is coming.

6)If i want to complete the matrix, I must pay the cost on top of the 5 mana I spent to reverse the potential spell. If I don't have the mana, my enemy now has time to counter the spell because the effect isn't a surprise to anyone anymore.

My preferred (and most likely wrong) method would be completing the matrix creates a new set of cast, counter, and resolve steps once the enchantment is revealed, mana is paid, and the matrix of spell potential is completed.

I'm cool if that's the way it goes down, but it makes reverse magic a pretty pricey card to reverse an enchantment with. I lost 5+ mana while my enemy got out of it for 2 mana and a likely chance to counter. This doesn't seem to fit the spirit of the spell which should be bad for him and way good for me. At a 5 mana cost, Reverse Magic, Reverse Attack and Reverse Attack are the most expensive Enchantments in the game.

Thoughts? :pinch: