Or you could give it the dissipate 4 trait instead. Also should not have channeling because thoughtspores have channeling. And should have a regular summon action rather than deploy.

Also, rooted uproot 1 and flying? That reminds of the necrotising vampiress.

Why not channeling, the Warlord has channeling on the armory and on Gurmash, there are probably other examples.  It could be limited in other ways rather than channeling. Like the battleforge just limiting to a certain spell type, or even just to mind spells. 

An interesting idea from the dissipate could be an illusion caster; that it can cast any creature as level 1, the creature appears as active, but the creature comes with a dissipate x (x = creature level).  So throw out a bitterwood fox that will last a level, more scary a bloodcrag or something that will disappear in 4 turns. 

I'd make it incorporeal to give it some resilience as it'd be a key target when combating a forcemaster.

 

You can add Plagued to your list of issues. That card is not meant to be attached to anything with poison immunity.

I can see why, it'd be instantly awesome with minimal effort - I'll just walk around spreading death and taking no damage!

I like all the creatures, but I don't quite see the connection to the ideas posted - laddin, do you want to talk to your inspiration/concept development a little?

Just in case anyone was confused as I was, there are two cards under discussion here, Wall of Poison Gas and Poison Gas Cloud. The first is a promo, the second is from the core set.

Wall of Poison Gas makes a critical attack, and Vet Belt works on it. Poison Gas Cloud does direct damage, and does not interact with Vet Belt.

Ah yes, thanks...reading properly does make everything make a lot more sense :-)

Was it dire need or something that seemed a fun idea 7 pages and 2 posts back?

I probably haven't totally captured what you were after, but here's a starter - its 126 points atm, so needs trimming:

I don't think I've held to the core concept hard enough and have added other flavours like the battleforge that probably erode the viabillity of the concept, but I felt they gave more options to the book at the same time.

I really wanted the gorgon in there, with all the spatial control of the thoughtspore and FM, it seemed having the gorgon to strike from the centre with weaken would be really strong.  In the end 12 sb points was too expensive. 

Most of the traps are pretty expensive for the FM, so I threw in the Force Crush as another option - getting it working with the poison cloud would be pretty nice.  Actually, its only the pit and cloud that are 4 points, teleport trap and hellfire are 2 each.

Actually just looking at it as a whole, I realise I've really built it around force crush/poison cloud and then keeping them there, fumbling/jinxing attempts to dispel etc.

I've included a lot of other cards to protect the creatures pretty heavily as there are only 3.

Ok, version 3, down to 121. I've gone with the mage wand to run minimal incantations that can be used between the wand or thoughtspores.  I've boosted the poison clouds and that's probably the main focus of the book as the Jelly and Clouds synergise nicely with the push.  I've kept a fire and spike trap as options for poison immune creatures and wardstone to protect them all.

I was torn between moonglow and harmonise.  I went with moonglow in the end as I figured the battleforge can cast it and the mage's mana is being drawn on from the thoughtspores and the battleforge so better to have the +1 there.

If I dropped the archer (9 points!) I could probably add a few different tricks, another couple of traps, but I like having the range on top of the position control.  Gives versatility against flying, although I've got main wings there just in case too.

Do you have to reveal the spell bound to the wand or thoughtspore before you use it?  I like the ideal of loading a thoughtspore with steal equipment and harvesting from the other mage, but felt it kind of was a risky play to rely on and also depreciated the forge.

Ok, version 5,  you talked me into it   I've dropped the archer, boosted the traps.  I've chucked in a couple of rhino hides to reinforce the thoughtspores; could also strengthen the FM if necessary.  I did think about bearstrength for the FM, but have just stuck to the lion savagery atm; although that would have the FM on 9 dice +3 piercing.  Would need to find 2 SB points.


[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Trapmaster[/spellbookname]
[mage]Forcemaster[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWA02]2 x  Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1j21]1 x  Suppression Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKJ01]1 x  Enchanter's Wardstone[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j04]1 x  Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j18]2 x  Poison Gas Cloud[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWC16]2 x  Thoughtspore[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC03]1 x  Devouring Jelly[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1e34]2 x  Reverse Attack[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE01]2 x  Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE04]2 x  Force Crush[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e38]1 x  Teleport Trap[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e02]4 x  Block[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE05]1 x  Forcefield[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e23]2 x  Jinx[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE06]2 x  Lion Savagery[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e24]1 x  Magebane[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e25]1 x  Maim Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e29]3 x  Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e22]2 x  Hellfire Trap[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE05]1 x  Spiked Pit[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e10]3 x  Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE05]2 x  Fumble[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e36]2 x  Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1q22]1 x  Moonglow Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ07]1 x  Psi-Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ04]1 x  Galvitar, Force Blade[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q11]1 x  Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q23]1 x  Regrowth Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q33]1 x  Wind Wyvern Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ01]1 x  Dancing Scimitar[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q19]1 x  Mage Wand[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ03]1 x  Force Ring[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i12]2 x  Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i07]1 x  Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI03]1 x  Force Bash[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI03]2 x  Disarm[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Isn't the amount of equipment I've got remaining also a factor? A wizards tower is the gift that keeps on giving but a battle forge late game has worn out its welcome (unless I'm just not bringing enough presents to the party!)